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    Neki od nas znaju a neki ne, pa evo malo citajte.

    Aspartame: What You Don’t Know Can Hurt You


    If a product is approved by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and composed of natural ingredients, would you assume it is safe to consume?

    If the same product is an artificial sweetener, would you assume it helps control your weight?

    Millions of people use aspartame, the artificial sweetener known as NutraSweet™, with these assumptions in mind.

    Aspartame can be found in thousands of products such as:

    * instant breakfasts
    * breath mints
    * cereals
    * sugar-free chewing gum
    * cocoa mixes
    * coffee beverages
    * frozen desserts
    * gelatin desserts
    * juice beverages
    * laxatives
    * multivitamins
    * milk drinks



    * pharmaceuticals and supplements, including over-the-counter medicines
    * shake mixes
    * soft drinks
    * tabletop sweeteners
    * tea beverages
    * instant teas and coffees
    * topping mixes
    * wine coolers
    * yogurt

    However, aspartame's tainted history of approval and potentially toxic ingredients cast serious doubt on the safety of this sugar substitute. Furthermore, aspartame may actually increase your appetite (Farber 52).

    While the FDA approval may signal the green light for safe consumption, 85 percent of all complaints registered with the FDA are for adverse reactions to aspartame, including five reported deaths. A closer look at the unscientific studies, suspicious approval methods, and its harmful ingredients, reveal the hidden dangers of this artificial sweetener. In reality, aspartame poses a public health threat.

    Ailments Resulting From Aspartame

    The components of aspartame can lead to a wide variety of ailments. Some of these problems occur gradually while others are immediate, acute reactions.

    A few of the many disorders associated with aspartame include the following:

    * Birth Defects

    A study funded by Monsanto to study possible birth defects caused by consuming aspartame was cut off after preliminary data showed damaging information about aspartame. Additionally, in the book, While Waiting: A Prenatal Guidebook, it is stated that aspartame is suspected of causing brain damage in sensitive individuals. A fetus may be at risk for these effects. Some researchers have suggested that high doses of aspartame may be associated with problems ranging from dizziness and subtle brain changes to mental retardation.

    * Cancer (Brain Cancer)

    In 1981, an FDA statistician stated that the brain tumor data on aspartame was so "worrisome" that he could not recommend approval of NutraSweet.(14)

    In a two-year study conducted by the manufacturer of aspartame, twelve of 320 rats fed a normal diet and aspartame developed brain tumors while none of the control rats developed tumors, and five of the twelve tumors were in rats given a low dose of aspartame.(15)

    The approval of aspartame was a violation of the Delaney Amendment, which was supposed to prevent cancer-causing substances such as methanol (formaldehye) and DKP from entering our food supply. A late FDA toxicologist testified before the U.S. Congress that aspartame was capable of producing brain tumors. This made it illegal for the FDA to set an allowable daily intake at any level. He stated in his testimony that Searle's studies were "to a large extent unreliable" and that "at least one of those studies has established beyond any reasonable doubt that aspartame is capable of inducing brain tumors in experimental animals ... " He concluded his testimony by asking, "What is the reason for the apparent refusal by the FDA to invoke for this food additive the so-called Delaney Amendment to the Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act? ... And if the FDA itself elects to violate the law, who is left to protect the health of the public?"(16)

    In the mid-1970s it was discovered that the manufacturer of aspartame falsified studies in several ways. One of the techniques used was to cut tumors out of test animals and put them back in the study. Another technique used to falsify the studies was to list animals that had actually died as surviving the study. Thus, the data on brain tumors was likely worse than discussed above. In addition, a former employee of the manufacturer of aspartame told the FDA on July 13, 1977 that the particles of DKP were so large that the rats could discriminate between the DKP and their normal diet.(12)

    * Diabetes

    The American Diabetes Association (ADA) is actually recommending this chemical poison to persons with diabetes, but according to research conducted by a diabetes specialist, aspartame: 1) Leads to the precipitation of clinical diabetes. 2) Causes poorer diabetic control in diabetics on insulin or oral drugs. 3) Leads to the aggravation of diabetic complications such as retinopathy, cataracts, neuropathy and gastroparesis. 4) Causes convulsions.

    In a statement concerning the use of products containing aspartame by persons with diabetes and hypoglycemia, the researchers says:

    "Unfortunately, many patients in my practice, and others seen in consultation, developed serious metabolic, neurologic and other complications that could be specifically attributed to using aspartame products. This was evidenced by the loss of diabetic control, the intensification of hypoglycemia, the occurrence of presumed 'insulin reactions' (including convulsions) that proved to be aspartame reactions, and the precipitation, aggravation or simulation of diabetic complications (especially impaired vision and neuropathy) while using these products ... Dramatic improvement of such features after avoiding aspartame, and the prompt predictable recurrence of these problems when the patient resumed aspartame products, knowingly or inadvertently."

    Another researcher stated that excitotoxins such as those found in aspartame can precipitate diabetes in persons who are genetically susceptible to the disease.(5)

    * Emotional Disorders

    In a double blind study of the effects of aspartame on persons with mood disorders, findings showed a large increase in serious symptoms for persons taking aspartame. Since some of the symptoms were so serious, the Institutional Review Board had to stop the study. Three of the participants had said that they had been "poisoned" by aspartame. Researchers concluded that "individuals with mood disorders are particularly sensitive to this artificial sweetener; its use in this population should be discouraged."(18) One researcher stated about aspartame, "I know it causes seizures. I'm convinced also that it definitely causes behavioral changes. I'm very angry that this substance is on the market. I personally question the reliability and validity of any studies funded by the NutraSweet Company."(19)

    Additionally, there are numerous reported cases of low brain serotonin levels, depression and other emotional disorders that have been linked to aspartame and often are relieved by stopping the intake of aspartame.

    * Epilepsy/Seizures

    With the large and growing number of seizures caused by aspartame, it is sad to see that the Epilepsy Foundation is promoting the "safety" of aspartame. At Massachusetts Institute of Technology, 80 people who had suffered seizures after ingesting aspartame were surveyed. Community Nutrition Institute concluded the following about the survey:

    "These 80 cases meet the FDA's own definition of an imminent hazard to the public health, which requires the FDA to expeditiously remove a product from the market."

    Both the Air Force's magazine, Flying Safety, and the Navy's magazine, Navy Physiology, published articles warning about the many dangers of aspartame including the cumulative delirious effects of methanol and the greater likelihood of birth defects. The articles note that the ingestion of aspartame can make pilots more susceptible to seizures and vertigo. Twenty articles sounding warnings about ingesting aspartame while flying have also appeared in the National Business Aircraft Association Digest (NBAA Digest 1993), Aviation Medical Bulletin (1988), The Aviation Consumer (1988), Canadian General Aviation News (1990), Pacific Flyer (1988), General Aviation News (1989), Aviation Safety Digest (1989), and Plane & Pilot (1990) and a paper warning about aspartame was presented at the 57th Annual Meeting of the Aerospace Medical Association (Gaffney 1986).

    A hotline was even set up for pilots suffering from acute reactions to aspartame ingestion. Over 600 pilots have reported symptoms including some who have reported suffering grand mal seizures in the cockpit due to aspartame.(21)

    Why don't we hear about these things?

    The reason many people do not hear about serious reactions to aspartame is twofold: 1) Lack of awareness by the general population. Aspartame-caused diseases are not reported in the newspapers like plane crashes. This is because these incidents occur one at a time in thousands of different locations across the United States. 2) Most people do not associate their symptoms with the long-term use of aspartame. For the people who have killed a significant percentage of their brain cells and thereby caused a chronic illness, there is no way that they would normally associate such an illness with aspartame consumption.

    How aspartame was approved is a lesson in how chemical and pharmaceutical companies can manipulate government agencies such as the FDA, "bribe" organizations such as the American Dietetic Association, and flood the scientific community with flawed and fraudulent industry-sponsored studies funded by the makers of aspartame.

    Erik Millstone, a researcher at the Science Policy Research Unit of Sussex University has compiled thousands of pages of evidence, some of which have been obtained using the freedom of information act 23, showing: 1. Laboratory tests were faked and dangers were concealed. 2. Tumors were removed from animals and animals that had died were "restored to life" in laboratory records. 3. False and misleading statements were made to the FDA. 4. The two US Attorneys given the task of bringing fraud charges against the aspartame manufacturer took positions with the manufacturer's law firm, letting the statute of limitations run out. 5. The Commissioner of the FDA overruled the objections of the FDA's own scientific board of inquiry. Shortly after that decision, he took a position with Burson-Marsteller, the firm in charge of public relations for G.D. Searle.

    A Public Board of Inquiry (PBOI) was conducted in 1980. There were three scientists who reviewed the objections of Olney and Turner to the approval of aspartame. They voted unanimously against aspartame's approval. The FDA Commissioner, Dr Arthur Hull Hayes, Jr. then created a 5-person Scientific Commission to review the PBOI findings. After it became clear that the Commission would uphold the PBOI's decision by a vote of 3 to 2, another person was added to the Commission, creating a deadlocked vote. This allowed the FDA Commissioner to break the deadlock and approve aspartame for dry goods in 1981. Dr Jacqueline Verrett, the Senior Scientist in an FDA Bureau of Foods review team created in August 1977 to review the Bressler Report (a report that detailed G.D. Searle's abuses during the pre-approval testing) said: "It was pretty obvious that somewhere along the line, the bureau officials were working up to a whitewash." In 1987, Verrett testified before the US Senate stating that the experiments conducted by Searle were a "disaster." She stated that her team was instructed not to comment on or be concerned with the overall validity of the studies. She stated that questions about birth defects have not been answered. She continued her testimony by discussing the fact that DKP has been shown to increase uterine polyps and change blood cholesterol and that increasing the temperature of the product leads to an increase in production of DKP.(13)

    Revolving Doors

    The FDA and the manufacturers of aspartame have had a revolving door of employment for many years. In addition to the FDA Commissioner and two US Attorneys leaving to take positions with companies connected with G.D. Searle, four other FDA officials connected with the approval of aspartame took positions connected with the NutraSweet industry between 1979 and 1982 including the Deputy FDA Commissioner, the Special Assistant to the FDA Commissioner, the Associate Director of the Bureau of Foods and Toxicology and the Attorney involved with the Public Board of Inquiry.(24)

    It is important to realize that this type of revolving-door activity has been going on for decades. The Townsend Letter for Doctors (11/92) reported on a study revealing that 37 of 49 top FDA officials who left the FDA took positions with companies they had regulated. They also reported that over 150 FDA officials owned stock in drug companies they were assigned to manage. Many organizations and universities receive large sums of money from companies connected to the NutraSweet Association, a group of companies promoting the use of aspartame. In January 1993, the American Dietetic Association received a US$75,000 grant from the NutraSweet Company. The American Dietetic Association has stated that the NutraSweet Company writes their "Facts" sheets.(25)

    What is the FDA doing to protect the consumer from the dangers of aspartame?

    Less than nothing.

    In 1992, the FDA approved aspartame for use in malt beverages, breakfast cereals, and refrigerated puddings and fillings. In 1993 the FDA approved aspartame for use in hard and soft candies, non-alcoholic favored beverages, tea beverages, fruit juices and concentrates, baked goods and baking mixes, and frostings, toppings and fillings for baked goods.

    In 1991, the FDA banned the importation of stevia. The powder of this leaf has been used for hundreds of years as an alternative sweetener. It is used widely in Japan with no adverse effects. Scientists involved in reviewing stevia have declared it to be safe for human consumption--something that has been well known in many parts of the world where it is not banned. Some people believe that stevia was banned to keep the product from taking hold in the United States and cutting into sales of aspartame.(26)

    Aspartame consumption is not only a problem in the United States--it is being sold in over 70 countries throughout the world.

    Izvor:

    http://www.mercola.com/article/aspar...en_dangers.htm

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    ASPARTAME IN CHEWING GUM
    By James Bowen, M.D.



    Posted: 27 May 2005


    Aspartame in chewing gum is absorbed directly though the buccal mucosa of the tongue, mouth, and gums, making it a far worse poisoning than even if it were given intravenously. The nerves serving this area and their vascular supply derive directly from the brain, so the Aspartame absorbed through them goes directly into the brain, by passing the spinal cord and blood brain barrier.

    The intact Aspartame molecule and its diketopiperazine form are vastly worse poisonings than any of the other poisonings which arise from it during digestion, and liver processing of the digestive blood, which is delivered directly to the liver via the portal vein. The other poisonings, as mentioned, are indeed horrendous but Aspartame from gum is far worse, making even the smaller amounts contained in chewing gum strikingly dangerous and damaging. This is doubtless why Wrigley placed it in all their products!

    Aspartame, via ingestion into the digestive tract, is made into some ten other poisonings by the digestive processes, and then excepting that which is delivered directly to the pancreas, they are transported straight to the liver via the portal vein, where they then are very partially dealt with, and partially reprocessed. Afterwards, they are sent in somewhat lesser concentration to the entire body, lessening the amount which eventually goes to the brain. The amount getting to the brain from either source is devastating to it in many ways. Aspartame is most certainly devastatingly toxic when ingested, but a like amount is immensely worse when obtained from chewing gum.

    When the CBS Evening News crew visited my Ridgefield Washington clinic, mid January of 1984, and Dan rather forbade them to make a program of what they learned there, one of them reported that she got a roaring headache if she chewed even a half stick of Aspartame gum! This devastation of the human brain is the primary reason why this brain washing agent, designed to keep us from questioning or objecting to what they are doing to our country and our world, is being slipped into us in spite of its horribly failing the toxicity studies, which revealed it to be a very strong carcinogen, indeed the number one brain carcinogen ever discovered by science! (The US brain cancer rate jumped 10% the first six months after Aspartame was added to diet pop!) Three cans of pop per day for only sixty days also caused an immediate 250% increase in visible human illness! Right up front!

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    nisam procitala sto si stavila, ali sam davnih dana, kad sam bila mlada i htjela se "sacuvat" viska kalorija, kupila onaj natreen i kad sam nakon nekog vremena u upustvima za upotrebu procitala ona full mala sitna slovca pisalo je da je kancerogen i da se ne bi trebalo koristit vise od xy mg dnevno. i da treba zbrojit sav aspartam koji se na razne nacine unosi u tijelo...

    od tad je moj moto: ako su kalorije - nek su bar ciste :D

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    I ja sam znala da nevalja ali da je ovako opasno nisam znala. :/

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    kaj je to? umjetno sladilo?

    baš sam si sad šibnula dva natrena u čaj . naime, kad me boli trbuh - ne mogu niš sa šećerom. koliko mi mogu naštetiti 4-6 natrena mjesečno ??

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    Nisam nikad koristila Natreen, niti bilo što niskokalorično jer mi je to samo nezdravo zavaravanje.
    Ali kad ga netko spomene sjetim se svoje sestre koja je kao jedno kratko vrijeme bila na dijeti i koristila Natreen (imala je 16-17g). I tako dođe ona nakon večernjeg izlaska doma u ponoć i mama joj servira sarmu i napravi limunadu. U limunadu je išla stavit obični šećer, a moja sestra punih usta mrmlja Ne, ne... što ti je .. stavi mi Natreen

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    ma ja crknem od smijeha kad netko neće šećer u kavu - jer je na dijeti . pa oće natren. ili sve sladi s tim jer nema kalorija...

    ja u čaj stavljam med - kad se dobro osjećam. ali kad si radim mentu ili kamilicu (što znači da nekaj ne štima) - ne pašu mi ni med ni šećer.

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    Čaj i kava najbolji bez ičega. Probaj, pa ćeš vidjet da slatko zapravo smeta okusu. A žvakaće gume ću se teško ostavit.

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    U sustini kazu da je kavu bolje popit sa secerom tj malo secera jer to je dovoljno da ti se kasnije netrazi secer ko lud.

    Nisam na dijeti nego pazim sta jedem ali obavezno kavu popijem sa secerom.

    Sto se tice zvakaci ima ih i bez ovog otrova, samo treba procitati sto se nalazi u njima.

    S obzirom da sam imala podosta od ovih simptoma pokusavam totalno izbjeci ASPARTAME.

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    In response to the studies about the dangers of saccharin, along came aspartame. Most of us know it as Nutrasweet or Equal. It comes in little, blue packets to put in your tea or coffee, in large packets for sweetening berries and cereal, and in almost every type of diet or low calorie food and beverage. But what exactly is aspartame?

    Aspartame is a chemical concoction made up of:



    * 40% aspartic acid - an excitotoxin that excites or stimulates neural (brain) cells to death
    * 50% phenylalanine - an amino acid normally found in the brain but dangerous to humans when concentrated at high levels
    * 10% methanol - wood alcohol known to be a deadly poison




    Leading physicians and scientists have appeared before the US Congress concerning disabilities, illnesses, allergies, and conditions caused by the long-term use of aspartame. In fact, a particular case study was presented to Congress by Dr. John Cook in which he chronicled the deterioration of a patient who had been consuming 6-8 diet soft drinks per day. The aspartame, particularly the phenylalanine, had caused migraines, weight gain, memory loss, and other health problems for that patient, as well as many others.

    Phenylalanine is dangerous to anyone with phenylketonuria (PKU) but studies have shown that even people without PKU can succumb to the levels of phenylalanine in aspartame sweetened foods and beverages. Some of the health problems directly associated with high phenylalanine levels are:



    * brain cancer
    * brain tumors
    * chronic fatigue syndrome
    * damage to fetus or infants
    * depression (aspartame prevents the proper function of some antidepressants)
    * diabetes
    * emotional disorders
    * epilepsy
    * insomnia
    * irregular heartbeats
    * joint pain
    * memory loss
    * menstrual problems (missed periods, clotting, frequency)
    * mental retardation
    * migraines
    * muscle spasms
    * problems for schizophrenics (aspartame prevents the proper function of some anti-schizophrenic medications)
    * seizures
    * vision problems (blurred vision)
    * weight gain

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    khm...................ima nas ovdje koji pricaju samo njemacki
    jel moze netko biti tako dobar pa ukratkim crtama prepricati

    sorci ja sam puno puta citala kako su ti umjetni zasladjivaci stetni za srce

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    da, ali mene zanima u kojim količinama su štetni... ja recimo stavim dva natrena u čaj. nekad popijem jedan, nekad 3 ili 4 nekad nijedan MJESEČNO.

    da li u tim količinama djeluju štetno?

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    negdje sam pročitala ne uzimati više od 14 komada dnevno.

    inače već duže vrijeme ne uzimam ništa šta ima aspartam. kažu da se on osjeti po gorkom okusu u ustima polije njegove konzumacije i istina je!

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    Citiraj s_a_n_d_r_a prvotno napisa
    khm...................ima nas ovdje koji pricaju samo njemacki
    jel moze netko biti tako dobar pa ukratkim crtama prepricati
    citiram samu sebe posto me ignorirateeeeeee :/

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    Citiraj s_a_n_d_r_a prvotno napisa
    Citiraj s_a_n_d_r_a prvotno napisa
    khm...................ima nas ovdje koji pricaju samo njemacki
    jel moze netko biti tako dobar pa ukratkim crtama prepricati
    citiram samu sebe posto me ignorirateeeeeee :/
    Neznam njemacki ali ukucaj pa trazi na njemackom.

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    Ja sam poludila kad sam vidjela da su djecje zvakace gume Orbit s umjetnim zasladjivacem. Katastrofa.

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    [quote="Natasa30"]
    Citiraj s_a_n_d_r_a prvotno napisa
    Neznam njemacki ali ukucaj pa trazi na njemackom.
    pa mislila sam da mi neko ovo sa engleskog preprica u kratkim crticama na nasem ne na njemackom

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    ups,nesto sam ga zeznula sa citiranjem

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    Citiraj anchie76 prvotno napisa
    Ja sam poludila kad sam vidjela da su djecje zvakace gume Orbit s umjetnim zasladjivacem. Katastrofa.
    Sve i one sa i one bez secera. Sad sam bila u ducanu i sve ih pregledala i sve su sa ovim vragom. Uzas.

    Sandra nemogu sad.

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    Za one koje zanima. . . ima jedna knjizica koja ze zove sto se krije iza E-brojeva, nije skupa, cca 60-ak kuna. . . Aspartam je E951. . .ukratko, da ne prepisujem cijeli tekst. . .

    Dnevna doza ne bi smjela preći 40mg. . . simtomi trovanja aspartamom: omamljenost, glavoboja, umor, vrtoglavice, povraćanje, ubrzani rad srca, dobivanje na tezini, omaglice, razdrazljivost, uznemirenost, gubitak pamcenja, zamagljeno vidno polje, osip, napadaji, sljepilo, bol u zglobovima, depresija, grčevi, pobačaj, nepolodnost, ovisnost, slabost, gubitak sluha. Postoje sumnje da moze inducirati tumore mozga, multiplu sklerozu, kroničan umor, epilepsiju, Parkinsonovu bolest, Alzheimerovu bolest, dijabetes, mentalnu zaostalost, limfom, defekte kod porođaja, sistemski lupus. . .U trudnoći moze djelovati na plod. . . . . Prilikom zagrijavanja namirnica koje ga sadrze moze doci do stvaranja diketopiprazina. . . .

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    Jezus, a ja pijem 4-6 tabletica dnevno(kava,čaj)+ žvakaće gume niti neznam broja, uhhh.. U svakom slučaju, obratit ću pažnju jer nakon spontanog svaka informacija upozorenja mi je bitna..

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    i ja cekam..........cekam...........ceeekam ......Natasu da mi nesto prevede

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    Koma!...
    Meni je s Omi grozna stvar sto bi ona tako rado kupila onaj sokic od pola litre (tipa ledeni caj i ti slicni), a ja joj to jednostavno ne mogu kupiti. Pristajem cak kad inzistira na sokove sa secerom, ali na sokove sa kancerogenim natrijevim benzoatom, aspartamom gdje je 15% voca, a ostalo voda, konzervansi, boje i umjetna sladila... jednostavno ne pristajem. Tuzno joj kazem da bi joj jako rado kupila taj sok, ali da je strasno nezdrav i ne mogu. Ona kaze ok. Ja je pitam hoces da ga kupimo, pa da ga bacimo i natocimo u tu bocu zdravi? Ona skakuce, da da.
    Stvar je u boci. SVA DJECA PIJU TE SOKOVE! SVAKI DAN! Ti sokovi i jesu namijenjeni djeci i straaaasno je da ne postoji niti jedna vrsta (a zaista nema jer sam si jednom dala dobrih 20 minuta iscitati sastav sa svih tih sokova koji su bili dostupni u mercatoru u nadi da ce bar jedan biti ok.... najbolji s najmanje otrova je bravo, ali nije ni on dobar) donekle ok takvog soka.

    Pa ok... mi stariji biramo sto zelimo, ali da se djeci nudi takvo smece je katastrofalno! Mi uopce ne znamo kako ce to djelovati na njihova mala tjela, jer mi nismo konzumirali toliko smeca od hrane, a vecina djeca to konzumira on daily basis. To se sve polako akumulira.... a mi i dalje pricamo puste price o umjerenosti koju danasnji svijet ne poznaje, kao da ce nas izbaviti iz svega. Kad god nekome osvijestim da jede nesto nezdravo, on kaze: ma ja ti to rijetko... tu i tamo... treba u svemu biti umjeren. Danas je toliko vazno biti "normalan" tj.. prije normativan da je postalo "nenormalno" paziti na hranu jer umjerena doza otrova je danas opceprihvacena i lud si ako na sve to pazis, cak su to i komentari:"ma ja bi poludjela da sve to citam... pa ne bi nista bilo za kupiti vise.."....
    Moj komentar na to je onda naslov onog clanka gore: "Ono sto ne znas ti MOZE nastetiti"... i ako samo dopustimo da sve sto nam je servirano bude prihvaceno, kako cemo ovaj svijet uciniti boljim za nasu djecu?

    Uzasno me ljuti sto su ljudi koji razmisljaju o stvarima koje drugi shvacaju zdravo za gotovo - nazivani extremistima i fanaticima. Upravo radi te osude okrecemo se od svojih poriva za promjenom prema pladnju smeca koje nam je servirano i uzimamo komadic, bas kao i svi drugi.

    Ja, naravno, gotovo uvijek, "prosirujem" teme.

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    Anita, super rečeno!
    Sve potpisujem (osobito dio o ekstremizmu i "normalnosti nenormalnog" )

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    U bivsoj drzavi SFRJ svi proizvodi koji su sadrzavali apartam bili su zabranjeni za uvoz (otac mi je sanitarni inspektor) , danas je dozvoljen.Uglavnom rekao je kolicine za dijete - dovoljno pojesti dva sladoleda dnevno i 7- 8 zvaka i popiti jedan sok. Ovisi o osjetljivosti djeteta i da je uglavnom najbolje izbijegavati bili sto sto sadrzi aspartam posebno za djecu.

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    Početno metanol i formaldehid

    Otprilike smo znali do nedugo da je aspartam KOMA, ali nisam znala u čemu je stvar...
    ...nedugo čitamo...na 30 C raspada se na metanol i još štošta...zamislite prevoz sokova pod ceradom u kamionima...na koliko stupnjeva??? Ili u dućanima??? Ili žvakača u ustima???
    ...čitamo da kad metanol dolazi s etanolom (npr. zagorski gemišti) NIJE TOLIKO štetan, ali ovako kao nusprodukt bez etanola -ČISTI OTROV...

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    I ja sam vec duze vrijeme zbunjena i ne znam sta bi bilo najpametnije dati djeci da piju.Koji sokovi imaju najmanje tih otrova,jos bi bolje bilo kada bismo bili sigurni da neki od kupovnih sokova nemaju stetne materije.Jos jednom pitanje,sta piju vasa djeca?

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    Ciciban,
    moja kcerkica pije sokove 100%-tne.... mineralnu (negaziranu) vodu najvise voli i takoder sokove mrkva/jabuka od alnature (ima u dm-u) koji su bez secera.
    Popije tu i tamo (kod bake naravno) juice 50% (znaci ima secer) ali one druge ni pod razno ne pije... gazirane ne voli "jer grizu"... i to je to otprilike.

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    makar smo na oprezu sa šećerom, mislim da je bolje i šećer nego umjetni zaslađivači.
    čula sam jednom (nisam provjeravala) da ih, za razliku od šećera, ljudski organizam uopće ne može razgraditi.
    što manje-to bolje.
    ionako ih ubacuju svugdje.
    a ovo sa "dječjim" žvakama je stvarno koma.
    navuku roditelje na to da su kakti bez šećera, a kad ono još puno gore s...e.

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    Da.... secer je koliko toliko poznat otrov, znamo njegove posljedice.... umjetni zasladivaci ce pokazati svoje pravo lice tek sad ili u skoroj buducnosti... :/

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    nedugo čitamo...na 30 C raspada
    koliko sam ja shvatila, to i je glavni problem, što je temp tijela dosta više od 30. znači u startu je problem.

    jel se tko sjeća kako su se u vijetnamu (jel bio vijetnam :/ ) amerikanci potrovali s colom light koja ima aspartam kao zaslađivač?

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    Citiraj ciciban prvotno napisa
    I ja sam vec duze vrijeme zbunjena i ne znam sta bi bilo najpametnije dati djeci da piju.Koji sokovi imaju najmanje tih otrova,jos bi bolje bilo kada bismo bili sigurni da neki od kupovnih sokova nemaju stetne materije.Jos jednom pitanje,sta piju vasa djeca?
    mislično kao AnitaAZ, kupujem isključivo 100%tn e sokove, npr. Juicy od ananasa ili naranče (ne nektar!), vindijin od jabuke (ali ima 2 vrdte, treba čitat), encijanov isl od jabuke, pago ili happy day od jabuke, ananasa, naranče, grejpa, čak i šegrt hlapić od naranče, u DMu od alnature ima i od šumskog voća, manga, itd.
    od breskve, marelice su skoro uvijek (ovi na našem tržištu)zaslađeni bilo šećerom bilo umjetnim sladilima.

    meni se čini stvarnoi grehotA kupovat junk sokove, kad imaš ipak izbor kupiti, istinabog koncentrat, ali ipak bez aditiva, šećera, umjetnih sladila i ostalih divota.

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    Cure, natren nije aspartamsko sladilo već ciklamat+saharin, samo da ne miješamo lončiće.
    (No nije zbog toga manje smeće.)

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