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    Naletila sam na zanimljiv dokument pa kopiram dio vezan uz gladovanje u porodu:

    Nutrition in Labour

    The practice of restricted intake, and in some cases, fasting during labour has become commonplace in many hospitals The explanation for this is the concern that eating and drinking in labour increases the risk of regurgitation and aspiration of the stomach contents if there is need for general anaesthesia. The most specific worry is of acidic gastric aspiration
    (Mendelson’s syndrome). The absolute level of the risk of aspiration has always been low and it is clear that aspiration of gastric contents now plays a very small role in both absolute and relative terms as a cause of maternal death (Johnson et al 1989). It has been frequently noted however that anaesthetic technique is the major reason that deaths from
    aspiration still occur (Morgan 1986, Crawford 1986, Ludka 1987, DoH 1991). Johnson et al (p 828) state that most cases of aspiration “could be prevented by a combination of decreasing the frequency of procedures that require anaesthesia, the use of regional anaesthesia wherever feasible, and meticulous attention to safe anaesthetic technique”.

    No presently known practices can ensure that a labouring woman’s stomach is empty, or that her gastric juices will have a pH greater than 2.5 (Johnson et al 1989) Fasting during labour does not guarantee an empty stomach should general anaesthesia become necessary: no time interval since the last meal can ensure a stomach volume of less than
    100 ml. Nor can fasting during labour be relied on to lower the acidity of the gastric contents (Roberts & Shirley 1976)

    Broach and Newton (1988), commenting on the fact that the delay in gastric emptying during spontaneous labour at term in low-risk women has not been demonstrated, state that it is the administration of narcotics that appears to be the major factor in delaying stomach emptying (Nimmo et al 1975, Holdsworth 1978). This would suggest that either other forms of analgesia should be considered or that oral intake of food should cease when narcotics are given (Grant 1990).

    Fasting may result in dehydration and acidosis. Recently it has been argued that ketosis is a normal physiological response in labour (Anderson 1998). However, ketosis combined with starvation and fatigue, can lead to inefficient uterine action (Broach & Newton 1988) increase the need for active management ( Foulkes & Dumoulin 1985) and lead to
    instrumental delivery (Grant 1990). There has been little published research into allowing nutrition in labour. A frequently cited study however, is that reported by Ludka (1987) from the North Central Bronx Hospital in New York. This was a hospital where women were allowed to eat and drink throughout normal labour as desired. In 10 years and throughout 20,000 births not one case of aspiration was noted. For a 6 month period the liberal practice was discontinued. During this time they had one case of maternal aspiration in a woman who had fasted for 36 hours: instrumental delivery increased by 35%: caesarian
    section increased by 38%; the need for intensive care of newborns increased by 69% and the chemical stimulation of labour increased fivefold. It is also important to consider that the withholding food and drink in labour is very much a hospital practice: when women opt
    for home confinement there is not such restriction (Baker 1996). As Odent (1994) points out, in the Netherlands where there is a high level of home delivery, caesarian section rate is below 10% and maternal mortality less than 1:10,000

    As Baker (1996) suggests, there is insufficient evidence to support the practice of starving women in labour. While there are no risk factors suggesting the need for general anaesthesia, women who wish to eat and drink in labour should be encouraged to do so. Frye (1994) says that eating in labour allows the woman to feel normal and healthy, it keeps
    her energy up and can minimalise complications caused by maternal exhaustion. The psycho-social aspect of fasting should also be considered. The provision of food and drink can be reassuring and comforting : denial can be seen as authoritarian and intimidating and
    may increase feelings of apprehension. Simkin’s survey into new mother’s assessments of emotional stress associated with obstetric interventions found that 57% of those whose oral fluids were restricted and 27% of those whose oral intake of food was restricted reported
    these practices to be ‘moderately’ or ‘most’ stressful ( in Broach & Newton 1988)

    The desire to eat, however, would appear to be most common in early labour. As Odent (1994) points out, women do not usually wish to eat in active labour and it is inappropriate to be encouraging them to do so, against their natural instincts. This is another area in which we should be responding to what the woman feels and needs and allowing her to make the decision and take control (Department of Health 1993).
    Izvor: http://www.aamatronas.org/vidocs/protocoloshefield.pdf

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    nisam sve procitala, ali poucena bolnickim iskustvom prvog poroda, na drugi sam otisla kad sam umlatila tri krofne s cokoladom

    prije treceg sam isto jela

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    i ja ako ikad vise budem isla na porod smlatit cu nesto kaloricno.
    Prosli put sam sanjala zalogaj bilo cega, ali mi babica nije dala:"povraticu" , sto bi po mom misljenju bilo najmanje zlo.
    Nakon poroda sam gotovo u nesvejst odvalila, pa mi je haoticno govorila:jedite, jedite, pijte sok, brzo

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    Ja sam uredno jela i pila gotovo do samog kraja. 8)

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    ova statistika je zastrašujuća!

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    nisam citala tekst do kraja al ja bi ministarstvu zdravstva poslala par sokantnih tekstovai apel da zakonom zabrane ukidanje obroka zenama u radjaoni, to je gore nego bilo kakva kazna... i onda se doktori cude da zena nakon 12 sati trudova nema snage za izgon... otkud bi je i imala kad je izgladnjuju???

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    Na SD ti stvari donesu u predrađaonu i ja sam uredno tamanila napolitanke iz torbe...

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    Quote Originally Posted by daphne
    nisam citala tekst do kraja al ja bi ministarstvu zdravstva poslala par sokantnih tekstovai apel da zakonom zabrane ukidanje obroka zenama u radjaoni, to je gore nego bilo kakva kazna... i onda se doktori cude da zena nakon 12 sati trudova nema snage za izgon... otkud bi je i imala kad je izgladnjuju???
    bravo

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    Ja sam bila gladna, skoro 20 sati bez jela ali sam pila koliko sam htjela. Po dolasku u sobu pojela sam masnu krafnu i pirošku koje mi je mm ubacio u torbu.

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    Ja mislim da je glad jedan od najvećih neprijatelja normalnog poroda. I žeđ isto tako. Zalogaj neke rodilji prijatne hrane i gutljaj vode se nevjerojatno slažu s njezinom hrabrošću pri rađanju.

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    Ja sam u rodilište krenula nakon što sam se dobro ispovraćala doma, još sam nekoliko puta povraćala tijekom poroda i nije mi na kraj pameti došlo da sam gladna ili da bih nekaj jela, ali da sam bila žedna - jesam i popila bih valjda bačvu vode, samo da su mi dali (tu je najgori bio MM, sav splašen, jer je on tak ižmikao sirotu gazu koju sam dobila za vlažiti usta, dok mi je sestra davala prilično namočenu )

    Isto tako, nisam u rodilištu (pa niti neko vrijeme nakon odlaska doma) uopće bila gladna, bilo mi je čisto dovoljno onoliko hrane koliko se dobije tamo, a ono što sam donijela od doma ili kaj bi mi MM donio (voće, krekere i sl.) sam podijelila ili vratila sa sobom doma jer nisam imala apetita (još uvijek razmišljam o tom periodu s nevjericom jer se situacija drastično promijenila kroz neko vrijeme tak da sad imam grdnih i ozbiljnih problema s kilažom )

    Sorry, malo sam zabrazdila

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    ja sam zadnji put jela 17.08. u ranim večernjim satima, sutradan sam taman krenula doručkovat, kad mi je puko vodenjak, rodila sam u 01:05 19.08 i ujutro tog dana jela doručak-smazala sam ga u roku keks, i htjela sam joooooš

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Rocco
    Ja sam uredno jela i pila gotovo do samog kraja. 8)
    I ja isto. I pred termin sam strogo pazila da ne bi slučajno otišla gladna rodit, kao tko zna koliko ću se mućiti pa bar da budem sita. I nakon poroda i sljedećih par dana sam bila jaaako gladna dok nismo došli doma pa više od dojenja nisam stizala klopati...

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    Joj meni je bilo koma, gladna ko vuk. Trudovi su mi počeli u pola tri ujutro, nisam ništa jela (mislila sam da ne smijem ) , popodne između trudova sanjala hranu. MM je umro od smjeha, kaže: "Ne mogu vjerovati! Ti u bolovima i trudovima, rađaš, a misliš na hranu" I meni je bilo smješno , ali kad sam bila totalno izgladnjela! Na kraju na večer rodila carskim rezom u 9.20. Drugi dan samo infuzije i ništa hrana , jela nešto malo tek treći dan. Mislila sam da mi oči budu ispale van od gladi :shock: . E da sam bila na forumu prije poroda, sve bi bilo frugačije.

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    Uf, dobro da znam. Znači moram se dobro najest prije nego idem rodit. To ću i napravit.

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