14. tjedan - uvučene bradavice - ja bih htjela nešto poduzet

[matsa]

Bok cure,

evo vidjela sam tu puno tema o uvučenim bradavicama. Meni je jedna skroz uvučena, znači na podražaj je uopće nema, a druga mi je inače ravna, a pojavi se na podražaj.

Pročitala sam da postoje pomagala za to i da bih ih sad odmah trebala krenuti izvlačiti, da izbjegnem potencijalne probleme s time. Sad sam u 14. tjednu, pa vas molim za savjet što da kupim - (kršitelj koda)ove ili koje proizvode i koje točno?

Isto tako, da li da ih nosim na obje bradavice, mislim da mi za ovu jednu ravnu ne trebaju? Ili?

puno vam hvala.

[emanina]

samo nemoj kupiti šeširić od nuk-a ništa ne valja meni je bio bolji (kršitelj koda)ov
ali to je kasnije za dojenje.ja mislim da za sad nesmiješ ništa raditi sa cicama pisalo je negdje zašto al nemogu se točno sjetit pa da ne bubam nek se jave savjetnice , sretno

[NatasaM...]

Za pocetak - jesi li pronasla tekst na nasem portalu?
http://www.roda.hr/tekstovi.php?Teks...=111&Show=1955

[matsa]

Za pocetak - jesi li pronasla tekst na nasem portalu?
http://www.roda.hr/tekstovi.php?Teks...=111&Show=1955

jesam, hvala. no, pročitala sam i puno postova cura sa sličnim problemom koje su se jako namučile i koje žale što nisu krenule prije trudnoće s nečime. pa zato pitam.

[matsa]

Za pocetak - jesi li pronasla tekst na nasem portalu?
http://www.roda.hr/tekstovi.php?Teks...=111&Show=1955

koje žale što nisu krenule prije trudnoće s nečime. pa zato pitam.

mislila sam reći tijekom trudnoće, a prije poroda.

[leonisa]

Treatments For Flat Or Inverted Nipples, and Techniques To Make Latching Easier

Although opinions and experiences vary, many women have found treatments for inverted or flat nipples helpful and many breastfeeding experts continue to recommend them. Breastfeeding experts disagree on whether pregnant women should be screened for flat or inverted nipples and whether treatments to draw out the nipple should be routinely recommended. For example, the British Royal College of Midwives says that hormonal changes during pregnancy and childbirth cause many mothers' nipples to protrude naturally. Although treating flat and inverted nipples during pregnancy is debated, if your newborn is having difficulty latching on to a flat or inverted nipple you may find some or all of the following helpful.

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Breast shells
Worn inside your bra, breast shells may help draw out flat or inverted nipples. Breast shells are in two pieces and are made out of plastic. The inner piece has a hole that fits over the nipple. The pressure on the tissue around the nipple causes the nipple itself to protrude through the hole. Breast shells may be worn during pregnancy to take advantage of the natural increase of the elasticity of a woman's skin by applying gentle but steady pressure to stretch the underlying adhesions (connective tissue) and draw out the nipple. After birth, they can be worn for about a half an hour before feedings to draw out the nipple. They should not be worn at night, and the milk collected while wearing them should not be saved.
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Hoffman Technique
This procedure may help loosen the adhesions at the base of the nipple, and can be used during pregnancy as well as after the birth. Place a thumb on each side of the base of the nipple -- directly at the base of the nipple, not at the edge of the areola. Push in firmly against your breast tissue while at the same time pulling your thumbs away from each other. This will stretch out the nipple and loosen the tightness at the base of the nipple, which will make it move up and outward. Repeat this exercise twice a day, working up to five times a day, moving the thumbs around the base of the nipple.
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Breast Pump
After birth, an effective breastpump (See How Do I Choose a Breast Pump? for more information on pumps) can be used to draw out the nipple immediately before breastfeeding. This makes latching easier for baby. A pump can also be used at other times after birth to further break the adhesions under the nipple by applying uniform pressure from the center of the nipple.
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Evert-it™ Nipple Enhancer
Designed by lactation consultants, the Evert-It™ consists of a syringe with a soft, flexible tip made of silicone, either end of which may be used to provide suction to help nipples protrude for easier latch-on. Use it before feedings as you would a breast pump.
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Nipple stimulation before feedings
If the nipple can be grasped, roll the nipple between the thumb and index finger for a minute or two. Afterwards, quickly touch it with a moist, cold cloth or with ice that has been wrapped in a cloth. This method can help the nipple become erect. Avoid prolonged use of ice, as numbing the nipple and areola could inhibit the let-down reflex.
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Pulling back on the breast tissue during latch-on
As your hand supports the breast for latch-on with thumb on top and four fingers underneath and behind the areola, pull slightly back on the breast tissue toward the chest wall to help the nipple protrude.
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Nipple shield
A nipple shield is a thin, flexible silicone nipple that is worn over the mother's own nipple. It has holes in the tip to allow milk to flow to the baby. If other strategies are not working, a nipple shield could help baby latch on and nurse well by providing the stimulation to the roof of the baby's mouth that signals his suck reflex. Nipple shields should only be used with the guidance of a lactation professional as they can lead to problems if not used properly.

Getting breastfeeding off to a good start

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Get help with positioning and latch-on
Getting skilled help is critical for a mother with inverted or flat nipples. It is important for the baby to learn how to open his mouth wide and bypass the nipple, allowing his gums to close further back on the breast. Experimenting with different positions is a good way to find what is most comfortable for the mother and helps baby latch most effectively. Some mothers find that the football (clutch) hold or cross-cradle hold gives them the most control, which also makes it easier for baby to latch on well.
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Breastfeed early and often
Plan to breastfeed as soon after birth as possible, and at least every 2-3 hours thereafter. This will help you avoid engorgement, and will allow baby to practice at breastfeeding before the milk becomes more plentiful or "comes in". Lots of practice at breastfeeding while mother's breasts are still soft often helps baby to continue to nurse well, even as the breasts become more firm (which can make a flat nipple more difficult to grasp).
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Achieve a deep latch
When latching your baby on, hold him in close against your body, with his ear, shoulder, and hip in a straight line. Align baby's nose with your nipple. Pull back on your breast tissue to make it easier for him to latch on. Tickle baby's lips with nipple and wait for baby to open wide (like a yawn). Then latch him on, assuring that baby has bypassed the nipple and is far back on the areola. The resulting latch should be off-center -- deeper on the bottom (more breast taken in on the chin side than the nose side). Baby's nose should be touching (but not buried in) the breast, and his lips should be flared out like "fish lips".
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Use calming techniques if baby becomes upset
Baby should not associate breastfeeding with unpleasantness. If baby becomes upset, immediately take a break and calm him. Offer a finger for him to suck on, walk, swaddle, rock, or sing to him. Wait until he is calm before trying again.

Gentle manual or oral stimulation of your nipples can be a part of lovemaking, and may encourage your nipples to protrude. Your partner will enjoy helping you prepare your nipples for nursing.

Stimulating your nipple. Unless it retracts completely, grasp the nipple and roll it between your thumb and index finger for 30 seconds, then touch it with a moist, cold cloth immediately before offering it to your baby. A disposable nursing pad that is dampened and put in the freezer makes a great ice pack to help the nipple evert immediately before nursing.

Pulling back on the areola before you latch the baby on. Support your breast with your thumb on top and your other fingers underneath, and pull back on the breast toward the chest wall. This will help the nipple protrude.

"Make" a nipple. Use the "breast-sandwich" technique to get more breast tissue into baby's mouth. Hold your breast well back on the areola, with your fingers underneath and thumb on top. Press in with thumb and fingers while at the same time pushing back toward your chest wall. This elongates and narrows the areola, which enables baby to latch on more easily.

http://www.llli.org/FAQ/flat.html
http://www.breastfeeding-basics.com/...inverted.shtml
http://www.askdrsears.com/html/2/T021800.asp


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[mišura]

Iz mog osobnog iskustva (btw. imala sam problem isti kao i ti, jedna bradavica se izvlačila na podražaj, druga nikako), prije trudnoće sam koristila (kršitelj koda)ove niplette, doduše neredovito kroz godinu dana, zatim prvih 5-6 mjeseci trudnoće koliko je dozvoljeno, i prije prva dva-tri podoja i poslije mi više nisu trebale!
Mislim da možeš kupiti pakovanje sa samo jednom niplettom jer ti za onu koja "sama izlazi" ne treba terapija, ili ju samo povremeno tretiraj toliko da budeš sigurna za poslije (tak sam i ja)

[matsa]

evo da podignem svoj topic nakon nekog vremena. Rodila prije 6 tjedana. Dojimo, još uvijek se nismo do kraja ufurali, ali skužila sam što smijem što ne smijem. Na početku je bilo strašno. Odmah u rodilištu mi je na uvučenoj bradavici napravila beba strašnu ragadu, koja je trebala jedno tjedan dana da zacijeli. Na desnoj također, ali ne tako veliku. Desna mi je ravna, lijeva uvučena. Tih prvih tjedan, dva sam stvarno svaku večer plakala i govorila da ne mogu trpiti tu bol ragade i da ću sutra hraniti bebu adaptiranim. Niplete sam imala još u rodilištu - moram priznati da mi nisu ništa pomogle, zato što su nekako nespretne za staviti, a kad beba plače od gladi, ne mogu ja pola sata ju pustiti da vrišti dok mi nipleta ne izvuče dovoljno bradavicu za podoj. Jer ako se nipleta drži par minuta, čim ju skinem, bradavica se uvuče. Šeširiće sam kupila, pročitala tekst na portalu i odustala od korištenja. Stoje neiskorišteni. I na kraju sam poslala muža i po školjkice, bez kojih sad ne mogu. Desna je ok za podoj i nju više koristim, posebno po noći, kad se dojke napune, jer nju beba može lakše uloviti. Na lijevoj nosim dosta često školjkicu, malo mlijeka curka pritom, to malo povećava proizvodnju, ali dok mi se grudi ne zapunjuju previše, ne brinem se. Isto tako, baš zato što mlijeko malo curka, ne moram se izdojiti malo prije podoja, što u slučaju desne dojke obavezno radim po noći, kad prođe više vremena od zadnje podoja. Bez školjkice više ni ne pokušavam dojiti na lijevoj, jer čim ju pustim da vuče bez školjkice, imam ragadu ili blister. Jednostavno tih par sekundi dok beba ne izvuče bradavicu je meni dovoljno da me ona povrijedi. Desna mi je postala sad ok, kao što rekoh, na lijevoj još uvijek osjećam neke bolove. Ne mogu prepoznati što je to, pa me zanima od vas s istim iskustvima - je li to bol od činjenice da mi beba faktički mijenja anatomiju i izvlači tu bradavicu? Bol je slična upali mišića, a locirana je oko bradavice.
Još nešto, shvatila sam da ležeći položaj nije za mene, jer mi onda i na desnoj napravi ili blister ili mi ju malo "nažulja". Nisam dovoljno vješta za takvo dojenje, koliko god je to zgodno po noći. Jedino sjedeći, uz jastuk za dojenje, s kojim sam se preporodila.
Eto, toliko od mene.

[NatasaM...]

Bol je slična upali mišića, a locirana je oko bradavice.

je li ispod kakav zastoj? kvrga?

inace, dobro se snalazis

[triplemama]

Niplete od (kršitelj koda)a su super ali se smiju koristiti samo do 6-og mjeseca trudnoće

[matsa]

Bol je slična upali mišića, a locirana je oko bradavice.

je li ispod kakav zastoj? kvrga?

inace, dobro se snalazis

nema zastoja, dojka uglavnom mlohava, osim noćas npr. kad se jako napunila, jer beba puno spava (kucam u drvo), a ja joj u noćnom podoju zaboravila dati i lijevu, pola sata dojila samo desnu i zaspala natrag.
mislim da mi je bol od ragadice koja je ostala nakon blistera. moram čekati da to prođe i onda će prestati. a i onda kad prestane, jako moram paziti s tom lijevom... baš zbog tog velikog paženja mi se čini da mi ona manje proizvodi, jer joj češće dajem desnu. evo sad je maloprije plakala na lijevoj, a dojili smo jedno sat i pol na toj strani (ne konstatno, naravno, nego s prekidima), a i ja sam izdojila jedno 20-a ml prije podoja. onda sam joj dala desnu, i skužila da je plakala jer je lijeva bila prazna (ja sam pritisnula i mlijeko je išlo i dalje, ali njoj valjda nedovoljno). na desnoj je dojila još 10-ak minuta i zaspala...