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Napravila sam točno ovako kako piše u dijelu If your “oversupply” has been dramatic koji sam povećala u kopiranom tekstu pa ćete vidjeti gdje počinje
Usual management procedures for oversupply; Gaining, Gulping, Grimacing?

Is your baby thriving… but nursing is a struggle? See if many of these sound familiar:

My baby chokes and gulps and splutters when she nurses, especially at the beginning.
My breasts always feel full, or they spray when they let down.
My baby “wrestles” with my breast, pulling off, coming back on as if she’s starving, pulling away and crying, backing off once she has the nipple in her mouth, arching.
My baby has lots of wet and poopy diapers, perhaps even with streaks of blood.
My baby is colicky, or gassy, or spits up frequently.
My baby is gaining rapidly, or grew fast at first with weight gain dropping as fussiness increased.
My baby rarely falls asleep at my breast; nursing is an athletic event rather than a peaceful one.
My baby will nurse only for food, not for comfort.

Those can be symptoms of a baby who’s getting “too much soup, not enough cheesecake.” When our babies are born, our bodies may be prepared with lots of milk… just in case. And it can take a while for our supplies to drop down to what our babies actually need.

The milk that builds up in our breasts between feedings tends to be a lower-fat milk. The milk that the baby pulls down during breastfeeding tends to have a higher and higher fat content, changing gradually from “soup” to “cheesecake”. When she finishes nursing, the fat that was pulled down near the nipple but not used gradually withdraws, to be pulled down at the next nursing after the baby gets through the newly-accumulated lower-fat “soup”.

If we have a lot more milk than our baby needs, she may not be able to get through all the soup at one sitting.If we switch breasts partway through the nursing “to make sure she takes the other side”, or if we try to space our nursings out to two hours or more, that can mean the baby plows through a whole lot of soup and never gets much cheesecake. She grows fine. But the higher-fat milk is an excellent stomach-settler, because it slows the passage of milk through her intestines. Without the extra fat, milk travels through her intestines without breaking down fully, and can ferment in her large intestine, causing gas, discomfort, and frothy green stools.

And then there’s the fire hose effect. If there’s a whole lot of milk in your breasts, it can squirt into your baby’s mouth faster than she can handle it, and make her feel she must swallow or drown. Not much fun. Like anyone else, your baby wants to take in food at a comfortable rate that she controls herself.



You may find your baby is happier and more settled if you let her “get to the bottom of the barrel”, where the cheesecake is, and slow the flow of your milk. How? By doing three things:

Offer to nurse her whenever she shows interest, even if it’s been only a few minutes. Shorter intervals mean the higher fat milk is still accessible. We tend to expect babies to nurse only for food, at predictable and widely-spaced intervals. Babies tend to think otherwise. If we offer only when we think they ought to need it, using other distractions when we think they “can’t be hungry”, we’re much more likely to see breastfeeding falter, or end before we wanted it to.

If she’s happy on one side, leave her there. Imagine a mother dog wearing a watch. After ten minutes she stands up, shakes the puppies loose, and lies down facing the other way so they can reattach to different teats. Silly, right? No other mammal takes a contented baby off one nipple simply to make sure it takes another; why should we? Using both sides each time is one of those rules that grew out of the old “don’t nurse very often” rule.

If that side isn’t nice and soft when your baby finishes, use it again next time. You may find that using one side for a couple hours is all it takes. After your supply has settled down to match her needs, you’ll largely forget this notion… although you often see breastfeeding mothers hefting each side to decide which they want to use. If your “oversupply” has been dramatic, or your baby is really fussy, you may find you need to spend 4 to 6 hours on one side before using the other. What’s happening to the other side in the meantime? The over-fullness sends a message to cut back on production, which is what you want. If you’re too overfull, you can nurse or express just enough to relieve it a bit, then go back to the side you’re trying to soften completely.

These sound like rules, but they’re actually just temporary reminders to help you get past those two initial rules that probably started the problem - making a point of switching sides, and delaying feedings.

As your supply settles down, you may worry that you’ve “lost your milk.” You may be so accustomed to heavy breasts dripping and spraying, and to seeing your child splutter, that a quiet, calm nursing from soft breasts feels wrong. But you’ll probably notice that those diapers are still very wet, and that your child breastfeeds contentedly, with a relaxed and comfortable body, letting go gently when she’s full or dozing peacefully at breast. Those are all signs of an ample - but not overfull - milk supply. If she wants to increase your supply further, all she has to do is ask to breastfeed more often, or fuss to go to Side Two after Side One is completely soft. Trust her to know her own needs, and trust your body to respond appropriately.

Cutting down on an oversupply is usually a simple, straightforward process, and you should begin to see a happier baby and easier feedings within a few days. If not, consult a breastfeeding specialist. She’ll have additional ideas, as well as an interesting booklet called “Effects of an Over-Active Let-Down Reflex”*.

Too Much Milk?
Said to have overabundant milk supplies, also known as hyperlactation syndrome, when the supply is more than what is needed by the baby. Often, these moms will suffer with frequently engorged breasts that many times lead to bothersome leaking and plugged ducts and breast infections. Their babies may seem fussy a lot, many times exhibiting colic-like symptoms with excessive gas and spitting-up (and even vomiting). These same babies may also have consistently green, watery stools and gain more than the typical 1/2-1 ounce a day during the first 4 months. They also tend to nurse frequently from both breasts, sometimes as often as every hour. Some babies may clamp down on or fold over the nipple during feeding as a means to slow the flow of milk down, especially if mother also has a forceful letdown (see below). Often the nipple will be white at the end of the feeding and/or creased and feedings will probably be painful. The baby may periodically refuse to nurse due to his frustration at "keeping up with the milk".


The underlying cause of the baby's symptoms is a disproportionate intake of the low-fat foremilk, the milk that is made available to the baby early in the feeding. When a baby consumes large amounts of this watery foremilk and less of the fatty hindmilk, that is made available as the feeding progresses, his stomach empties rapidly while at the same time dumping excess lactose into the bowel. The result is many times like that of colic in the baby.
Usually these symptoms can be relieved for mother and baby by making a few changes in the nursing pattern. Start by making sure that you allow your baby to completely finish one side before you offer the other by waiting until he pulls off himself, goes to sleep, or ceases to actively suck and swallow. Don't feel that you have to interrupt his nursing on the first side after a certain amount of time. It is much more important that he get the right balance of milk during the feeding than that he nurse both sides. If after finishing the first side, he does not want the second side, don't worry. He probably does not need it. If you are uncomfortable, you can hand express or pump just enough to relieve any pressure.
If this change in pattern does not bring about improvement, then it is usually recommend that you limit the baby to one side for up to 2 -3 hours before nursing on the other side. Some mothers with especially over-abundant supplies may have to go even longer periods, nursing on only the same side. Again, if the unused breast becomes uncomfortable in the meantime, you can pump or hand express just enough to relieve the pressure. Nursing and pumping in this fashion will help to regulate your supply to more closely match your baby's needs within a few days and ensure that your baby gets the right balance of foremilk/hindmilk. If after several days of limiting your baby to one-sided nursing for a period of several hours, there is still no improvement, you may want to try using an antihistamine, drinking Sage tea, or applying cabbage leaves until you begin to see improvement. (See the suggestions on our page about weaning for more on these remedies.) Stop with these more extreme measures once you notice improvement. Another last resort management suggestion is the use of a silicone nipple shield used during the feeding to help slow the flow of milk. Only use a nipple shield with the recommendation and observation of a lactation consultant.
Many times moms with overabundant milk supplies also experience forceful letdowns. Their babies may cough, gag, gulp, etc. in the first minute or so of the feeding as the initial letdown occurs. As mentioned in the first paragraph, they may also pull off the breast repeatedly and periodically refuse the breast. There may be some clamping down on the nipple as the baby tries to slow down the flow of milk. Some babies may try to perch out on the tip of the nipple rather than taking in a good mouthful of breast tissue so that the milk doesn't flow so fast. Both behaviors most likely will make feedings painful for mom. Babies who react in this way may take in more air and will need to be burped more often during the feeding. To help your baby deal with the fast flow of milk, position him so that his head is slightly above breast level. With a younger baby, the football hold works well in this situation. Sit so that you are leaning backwards slightly, such as you would while sitting in a recliner. This enables gravity to help slow things down. You may want to try lying down on your back and allowing baby to perch upon your chest as if he were nursing uphill or climbing up your chest. You also may either pump or hand express until the flow of milk slows down and then put your baby to the breast or you may wait until letdown occurs and then take your baby off the breast while at the same time catching the milk in a towel or diaper. Once the flow slows, you can put your baby back to the breast. In time, with maturity, your baby will learn to deal with the fast flow of milk with more ease and will probably prefer it!


I da mučili smo se preko 6 tjedana dok nisam usvojila ovaj način dugog dojenja na jednoj strani, a dotad je morala po cijeli dan biti na meni i jela vi samo ako bih je ulovila u onom trenutku kad se budi pa može vući , ali još nije svjesna sebe pa na reagira vriskom i plačem. bilo je strašno, ali kad sam našla rješenje nikad me dojenje nije bolilo , nisam imala mastitis niti ikakvih problema.
SRETNO!