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... bude dobar i ne košta puno.
neki dan sam vidjela neke jeftine u Ikei, ali je bio lakši od moje teflon tave, pa sam pretpostavila da mu to baš i nije neka karakteristika.
dakle, na što trebam gledati pri kupnji i kako ste vi zadovoljne vašima (kojima)
ja sam kupila gusani vok za 200 kn u Lesnini - veliki je i težak :)
nije pravi, ali ja sam zadovoljna s tefalovim.
svakako mora biti tezak.
ja sam svoj bila kupila u jednom kineskom ducanu (naravno onom za hranu, obicno svaki takvi ducani imaju i odjel sa nesto posudja i sl.) pa mozda ih i kod nas drze, da pogledas njihov ducan u savskoj? davor ce ti to vjerovatno znati...
ne kuzim kako tezina voka poboljsava pripremu hrane
pa, što je teži znači da je dno deblje, da duže drži toplinu, da možeš ono što je već ispirjano staviti na stijenke, a da se neće ohladiti dok se ono u sredini ne zgotovi...
ja mislim da taj dućan u Savskoj više ne radi, tj. dasa u njemu prodaju kin. robu...
imas razne varijante sa teflonom (bio onaj topic o teflonu :mrgreen: ), koj su laksi i lakse se odrzavaju.
ali pravi bi trebao biti od ljevanog zeljeza, prilicno je tezak i moras ga uvijek premazivati uljem za odrzavanje.
takav imam. dobro se kuha u njemu.
kakvo ulje za održavanje?
VD-40?
imam tefalov, kupljen u Mercatoru, ne sjecam se vise cijene (nekih 120 kuna?), varijanta bez rucke, tj. rucku kupis samu, i kombiniras sa drugim njihovim posudama
+ imam onaj rupicasti poklopac, isto ide na sve posude
zakon :D
i moj je gusani, jako je težak i prezadovoljna sam.
Do sad se pokazao kao najefektivniji(od dosadašnja 4 :roll:)
perem ga tozom od kahve(masnoću i miris)
a pržim na kikirikejovm ulju
gusani su najbolji, najteži i najskuplji. e, ja nemam takav ;)
moj je dobar (od teflona, doduše) i jedina mana mu je ta što se ručke zagrijavaju pa moram paziti. pripazi na to.
a sad sam skužila da topic počinje sa "gdje...".
nema gdje nema, koliko sam vidjela po gradu...pa fino put pod noge :mrgreen:
pa zar drška nije drvena?
da, ziher VD-40 kak ti velisCitiraj:
apricot prvotno napisa
:mrgreen:
jes da WD-40 podmazuje, ali u biti stiti od korozije, istiskuje vodu i vlagu te stiti elektrokontakte (bolje ga je imat u u autu nego u kuhinji)
milim da je prije misla na floriol ili tak neko jestivo ulje
Apricot pukla si me u sridu ! Ja baš htjela otvoriti topic.Koliko se ja kužim cilj je da je težak , sa debelim dnom da zadržava toplinu i da se hrana brzo i ravnomjerno peče . Gdje ima kupiti, nemam pojma :mrgreen:
pa šta se onda javljaš?! :P
tocno mukica.
normalnim jestivim uljem, maslinovim ili koji vec imas.
to je protiv hrde.
kupila ga u austriji narudbom. nije bio skup. ali to tebi bas ne pomaze. :/
trebas nesto u zagrebu.
imas dobre gusene od firme le creuset, ako ih ima u zagrebu. ali mislim da nisu bas jeftini.
kod mene drške nisu drvene, ali su nekako velike i dosta po strani pa se nezagrijavaju.Citiraj:
apricot prvotno napisa
Kupila sam u kineskoj prodavnici u njemačkoj.
moja mama je kupila u Tschibu i također je jaaaaako dobar.
mi ćemo uskoro u Beč, možeš mi napisati i neke trgovine tamo. (ako ne odstupaju puno od samoga centra)
heeeej,pa vidi,moja mama je kupila baš u Beču, u Tschibu
Koštao je,tačno se sjećam 48 eura :)
he , he da se ponadaš da ćeš čuti nešto pametno :roll:Citiraj:
apricot prvotno napisa
meni mama kupila u metrou- velik, tezak...
WMF
1010 Wien, Stock-im-Eisen-Platz 3 (graben)
Tel.: 01/512-71-05
WMF
1070 Wien, Mariahilferstraße 62
Tel.: 01/523-53-55
Räsper und Söhne
1010 Wien, Graben 15
Ostovics
1010 Wien, Stephansplatz 9
Leiner (robna kuca, pokustvo i kucanske stvari
1070 Wien, Mariahilfer Straße 18
Slama (veliko, ima veliki izbor posuda)
1060 Wien, Mariahilfer Straße 71
ima jos par cijih se imena sad ne mogu sjetiti. posaljem poslije.
seni, ovo je dovoljno, hvala.
ove u Mariahilferstr. su mi dovoljne, tamo ćemo.
ako prije ne kupim ovdje.
dobro da nisi uzela taj u ikei jer stvarno ne valja nista
potpisujem tridesetri sto se tice tezine,al i druge sto se tice cijene
Ja sam si nedavno kupila kuharicu za Wok, u kojoj su upute kako pripremiti wok, al ne znam gdje mi je (selidba) pa vam kopiram s jednog sitea, ako vam se da čitat na engleskom...Ja ću ovo kad-tad napravit :mrgreen:
http://www.thaifoodandtravel.com/features/wokcare.html
A precious wok is one that has seen lots of use and experienced little scrubbing. A shiny, black patina covers its surface like a well-used and well-seasoned cast-iron pan. Foods do not stick to it even when cooked over high heat; moreover, their flavors are enhanced. Clean-up and care are easy, taking little time and effort.
To get your wok looking this way is not difficult if you start out with the right kind of wok. The easiest for seasoning and care is made of carbon steel (or spun steel), which has pores that open when heated to absorb oil and become sealed, and this is the kind I recommend. Widely available today in Asian markets that carry cookware, it has the added advantage of being inexpensive.
In the stores, carbon steel woks come covered with a coating of machine oil to keep the metal from rusting, so be careful when going through the stack of woks while making your choice not to get the dirty oil all over your hands, arms and clothing. When you get home and are ready to season the wok you've selected, rinse thoroughly with lots of hot, soapy water to remove every trace of the machine oil. (If you have an old rusty wok stuffed somewhere in your garage from a previous attempt at wok cooking, it is most likely made of carbon steel and can be seasoned as described below. Just rinse well, scrubbing off the rust, before proceeding.)
The wok may be seasoned like any cast-iron pan, by brushing the surface with cooking oil and baking in a moderate oven for an hour. However, because of its shape and center of gravity, oil tends to flow down and gather in the center, resulting in an unevenly seasoned surface. For this reason, I prefer to do the seasoning over a burner on top of the stove. [Added on October 15, 2001: Probably the best fat to use is lard – traditionally when you bought a wok you were given a piece of pig fat to season it. I have also used peanut oil. Polyunsaturated oils are not recommended as they can make the wok very "gunky."]
Heat the wok for a few minutes until its entire surface is hot. Using a heat-proof brush (e.g., the type for barbecuing) or a piece of cloth, brush a thin layer of cooking oil over every inch of its surface. Use an oil with a high smoking point (e.g., peanut oil or corn oil) to minimize oil fumes. Make sure you have plenty of ventilation – turn the fan on high and open all the windows. Tilt the wok from side to side, subjecting the entire surface to intense heat to burn the oil into it. After burning a few minutes all around, turn the heat off and let the pan cool completely to room temperature before beginning round two. When the wok has cooled, sop up the excess grease in the center with a paper towel. Turn the heat on high and let the wok heat for a few minutes until wafts of smoke can be seen lifting off its surface. Turn the pan from side to side and again "roast" every inch of it to further burn in the first layer of oil. Then, brush in another coating and proceed as before to burn this second layer into the pan. After a few minutes, turn off heat and let pan cool.
Repeat the foregoing steps a few more times, alternating heating with cooling, each time burning in the previous layer before adding another layer. Make sure to sop up excess grease that tends to collect in the center before each reheating to prevent a thick, gel-like coating from forming there. After several coats of oil have been burned in, the wok will begin to turn dark, though the coloring may be uneven and splotchy. When the wok has developed enough of a tacky, oily surface that does not look dry when heated up, you may begin to use it for cooking.
Stir-fry only as described earlier – always heating the wok until it is smoking hot to open up the pores before adding oil to seal them. Initially, bits and pieces of food may stick to the wok's surface. Avoid cooking starchy foods, which have a tendency to stick, and foods that are either acidic or require prolonged cooking by simmering with lots of liquid, as this can cook off some of the seasoning. Deep-fat frying, on the other hand, can help build up the layers of seasoning.
At the beginning, your wok will require a little more attention and care. Following each cooking session, rinse only with plain water and never use soap on it. If there are bits of food sticking on the surface, use a soft sponge and work the area gently – just enough to remove the food particles. Do not wipe with a towel after rinsing. Instead, dry the wok over a burner set on high heat, allowing the traces of grease from the cooking session to burn into the surface. Heat until the wok is smoking and if the surface does not look shiny and oily, brush in a thin coating of cooking oil, letting it burn thoroughly into the metal. Let cool, sop up the excess grease before putting away.
After repeated use and the proper care, your wok will develop a beautiful, black patina and food no longer will stick to the surface during cooking. Even if it does, a coaxing with the wok spatula lifts it off without damaging the seasoning. By this time, you may no longer need to re-season your wok after each cleaning. Simply rinse with water and soft sponge and dry either on the stove, or turn it over on the drain board to dry on its own. From time to time, heavy usage may deplete part of the seasoning. When this happens, re-season after cleaning like you did in its earlier days.
I pay little attention to the bottom side of my wok. I neither clean it, nor season it. Over time, it develops a thick layer of carbon from oil and food spilling over the side during cooking. This crusty layer gives the wok more heat and sometimes contributes a smoky dimension to your cooking. A well-seasoned wok will not rust and its blackened surface greatly enhances the flavors of food like no other non-stick pan can. It is as if it has stored memories of the many meals it has cooked and calls on this storehouse of experience to enrich the food it is now asked to cook.
u Merkuru imaš na sniženju (u onom dijelu gdje prodaju Fisslerovo posuđe i sl.) od 100 kn pa naviše
ja sam neki dan se vrtila oko jednoga, no odustala sam
odustala iz razloga jer me pokolebao moj neuspjeh s Ikeinim wokom koji mi se izvitoperio na dnu (nije više ravan, kuhala sam na keramičkoj ploči) i jelo koje nije bilo jestivo
ikeino suđe baš i nije pojam kvalitete :/
Ajme koja znanost za jednu tavu... pretpostavljam da onda ne ide ni u perilicu?
koliko znam, ona se uopće ne pere, samo se obriše!
to je "tava s dušom".
(kad sad tek krene "znanost")
prevelik je za perilicu.Citiraj:
mamazika prvotno napisa
eh, da jos sam se sjetila.
ako hocete stir-fray, dakle hrskavo, onda vok mora biti velik, inace bude onako vise skuhano.
dakle, ako je i za dvije tri osobe, bolje je uzeti onaj za 4-6, jer u njemu mozes spremati i manju kolicinu, a obrnuto ne ide.
"znanost" ce krenuti ako davor otkrije topic. ;)
ne ide mi čitanje ovog na engl. Može li tko ukratko kako se vok stavrno održava? ja jednostavno ne kužim kako ga netko može "oprati" bez pranja, pogotovo ako radiš neki umak sa vrhnjem i sl. Ja to lijepo operem u vodi i detergentu :oops:
takva je moja palacinkerica
ta jos vodu nije vidla, osim kad sam ju donesla iz duckasa
ja ni roštilj ne perem.Citiraj:
Bubica prvotno napisa
samo ostružem onom žičanom četkom. visoka temperatura na takvim materijalima sagori sve što bi bilo nepoželjno.
a u vok ni ne mislim stavljati vrhnje - izgubi se smisao "wokerskog" načina kuhanja.
očito ja neznam kuhati u woku, ali ono recepata sto sam ja citala (ne puno) bogami se i vrhnje spominje, osim soja sosa.
Rostilj ne perem niit ja, ali niti ne pecem na njemu (nego MM) pa ne gledam uzivo na sto to lici (nakon čišćenja MM-a).
Ja imam Ikein wok. OK je i sluzi svrsi, ali moja mama ima guseni (mislim da ga je platila cca 300 kn sa poklopcem i resetkom) i njen mi je san snova.
Inace wok ne smije u perilicu (bar tako pise u uputama) samo se prebrise - tako je kod ovog gusenog, a moj iz Ikee ne moze tako, treba ga namociti i izribati.
onda ja nisam pročitala dovoljno recepata.
meni je asocijacija na vok: komadići nečega. bilo mesa, bilo povrća. i začini. i gotovo.
pa jel u wok ne ide ulje?
I ja vec odavno imam namjeru ga kupit, pa i mene interesuje ova tema.
Dajte wokerice malo detaljnije kako kuhate u woku, kako cistite.
:?
takodjer :mrgreen: